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21:07 Jan 30 2009
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As of late, I have noticed many threads carrying the undertone of science vs. faith in our forums. I cannot help but wonder why is there such a strong cry for scientific, empirical evidence from a society based on vampires, the paranormal, superheroes, and other topics related to the Dark Network. There are modern day and historical stories of vampires, ghosts, spells, monsters, etc that are collected on this website because it is these interests that drew us to Vampire Rave. I am not suggesting we suspend our thought process and embrace every account of paranormal or supernormal occurrences. But why in the world would anyone come onto a vampire site to argue scientific belief supremacy over individual or spiritual beliefs? We cannot and should not devalue our own personal experiences, documented anthological, sociological, and historical accounts when discussing modern day questions regarding the paranormal. I hope people do not feel put down or their experiences diminished because of these forum debates, after all many people would argue that science itself is just a belief ;)

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cadrewolf
cadrewolf
21:33 Jan 30 2009

*applauds*





Sinora
Sinora
22:36 Jan 30 2009

Yes indeed !





sahahria
sahahria
23:57 Jan 30 2009

While it can be just as bad to have everyone say, "oh yes!" I personally miss the discussions where you put your beliefs on hold and assume that magic does exist in extraordinary ways.



Balance would be a lovely thing if it could be found again in our forums.





Nightgame
Nightgame
00:15 Jan 31 2009

I came here for enjoyment and exploration never thinking it was a scientific quorum where any and all ideals had to be accompanied with proof positive.





imagesinwords
imagesinwords
00:19 Jan 31 2009

Oh so Johnny on the spot!





Vampirewitch39
Vampirewitch39
12:13 Feb 01 2009

How can you not belief in paranormal or supernormal occurrences in todays time?





Joli
Joli
23:33 Feb 03 2009

I'm with Sahariah. I prefer balance. We can be asked to swallow way too much "magic" and personal experience as fact when its relevance may only be personal. However, as a person who does value faith, I expect there to be room to posit my theory as well. I do not mind a counter position and a request for evidence, but I should also not be treated like an idiot when I offer that my experiences are personal and relevant to me.



However, I would not put forth my personal experiences or even my faith as fact that has relevance for all. If the god that I believe in does exist, he could have done that far better than I, but yet he found value in the experience of faith. I'm stuck with that truth whether I like it or not :)



Oh, balance...where are you?





Beastt17
Beastt17
20:13 Feb 05 2009

When contrary beliefs are chosen any supported conclusion will leave some to recognize the failure of their beliefs to align with reality. Shall we seek never to find conclusions, to always hold beliefs rather than knowledge and to promote the value of personal comfort at the expense of true understanding?



Galileo was right when they didn't want him to be and was imprisoned for it. Bruno was right when others didn't want him to be and they burned him to death for it.



Can we learn? Or should we seek to sacrifice progress for ego?





 

Damn...

18:25 Jan 28 2009
Times Read: 804


Letter offers clues to death of 5 kids, 2 adults

By THOMAS WATKINS, Associated Press Writer

Wed Jan 28, 7:28 am ET



LOS ANGELES – In one upstairs bedroom, the bodies of twin 2-year-old boys were found beside their dead mother. In another bedroom, 5-year-old twin girls and their 8-year-old sister lay next to their lifeless father.



Officers discovered the horrific scene after rushing to a home in Wilmington, prompted by the father's distraught letter faxed to a TV station describing a "tragic story" and a call to authorities.



Police believe Ervin Lupoe, 40, killed his five children and his wife before turning the gun on himself. Both adults were recently fired from their hospital jobs.



"Why leave our children in someone else's hands?" Lupoe wrote in his letter faxed to KABC-TV. The station posted the letter on its Web site with some parts redacted.



The station called police after receiving the fax, and a police dispatch center also received a phone call from a man who stated, "I just returned home and my whole family's been shot." Police are unsure who the male caller was, but they suspect it was the father.



Officers rushed to the home in Wilmington, a small community between the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, about 8:30 a.m. Tuesday and found the bodies.



All the victims were shot in the head, some multiple times, coroner's Assistant Chief Ed Winter said. The killings may have occurred between Monday evening and early Tuesday, based on neighbors' accounts of firecracker sounds, he said.



Although the fax — addressed to "whom it may concern" and explaining "why we are dead" — asserted that the wife, Ana Lupoe, planned the killings of the whole family, police Lt. John Romero said Ervin Lupoe was the suspect. A revolver was found next to his body.



It was the fifth mass death of a Southern California family by murder or suicide in a year. Police urged those facing tough economic times to get help rather than resort to violence.



"Today our worst fear was realized," said Deputy Chief Kenneth Garner. "It's just not a solution. There's just so many ways you find alternatives to doing something so horrific and drastic as this."



Ervin Lupoe removed three of the children from school about a week and a half ago, saying the family was moving to Kansas, the principal told KCAL-TV. Crescent Heights Elementary School Principal Cherise Pounders-Caver said nothing seemed to be troubling Ervin Lupoe, and she did not ask why the family was moving.



Kaiser Permanente Medical Center West Los Angeles released a statement confirming Lupoe and his wife were fired as medical technicians more than a week ago. The hospital said the firings followed an internal investigation but would not specify why they lost their jobs.



The letter indicated that Lupoe and his wife — both 40 — had been investigated for misrepresenting their employment to an outside agency to obtain childcare. He claimed that an administrator told the couple on Dec. 23: "You should not even had bothered to come to work today you should have blown your brains out."



Lupoe's letter said the couple complained to the human resources department and eventually were offered an apology but two days later they were fired.



"They did nothing to the manager who stated such and did not attempt to assist us in the matter, knowing we have no job and five children under 8 years with no place to go. So here we are," the note said.



At the bottom of the letter, Lupoe wrote, "Oh lord, my God, is there no hope for a widow's son?" The phrase is frequently found in Internet discussions about the novel "The Da Vinci Code," Freemasons and Mormonism.



Kaiser Permanente said staff was "saddened by the despair" in Lupoe's letter "but we are confident that no one told him to take his own life or the lives of his family."



Lupoe's fax identified his children as Brittney, 8; 5-year-old twins Jaszmin and Jassely; and twins Benjamin and Christian, ages 2 years and 4 months. Winter confirmed the identities of the girls, but the boys' names were pending.



Lupoe got a state license to work as a security guard in 1989 and a permit to carry a gun as a security guard in 1993 but both expired in 2007, said Russ Heimerich, a spokesman for the state Bureau of Security and Investigative Services.



Bob Pierce, a Long Beach attorney who represented the Lupoes in an auto accident, said the case did not involve any serious injuries and the family was expected to receive "well below $10,000," he said.



Lupoe called Monday to find out when the money might be coming, Pierce said. Pierce told him that it might be another week or two "and he said 'no problem.'"



To Amanda Garcia, everything seemed normal in the Lupoe house next door. Her neighbors always had a friendly wave and their five young children would play outside.



"They were happy, they had birthday parties," the 22-year-old Garcia said as she choked back tears near her home. "The kids were always outside on bikes, riding on their wagon."



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On the Net:



Lupoe letter available at: http://www.abc7.com


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LonelyInMyNightmare
LonelyInMyNightmare
19:19 Jan 28 2009

Tragic........





 

17:43 Jan 27 2009
Times Read: 819


“Are we human, or are we dancers?”



Is that really our only options?



“My sign is vital”



Congrats on coming up with the cheesiest answer for a cheesy bar pick up line.



The song gets on my nerves, and yet it is stuck in my head. Grrrr


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imagesinwords
imagesinwords
17:52 Jan 27 2009

ha! I've never heard it before :)





sahahria
sahahria
18:17 Jan 27 2009

You know I haven't heard that either ...





meeper
meeper
18:30 Jan 27 2009

Now if I was really evil, I'd send you a link to the mp3. Enjoy your innocence!





serinitydarkwolf
serinitydarkwolf
19:31 Jan 27 2009

ha!lofl!!I hate that song!!they just killed thier reputation when they killed that song.





 

06:33 Jan 25 2009
Times Read: 827


I should know better than to drink this much. Three drinks and the room is spinning. Just got home and am popping tums, tylenol, water, and some bland bread to try and prevent the spinning sensation and tommorows hang over. I really really should know better at my age. Damn.


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18:40 Jan 17 2009
Times Read: 845


I need some Tylenol after trying to decipher some of the text, slang, and poorly spelled words in the forum. Is it laziness? Do we have a generation of kids who cannot spell "because" let alone attempt to spell "modification"? I know those are tricky words with multiple syllables, but then what is the excuse for misspelling "and"?


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LordVlkodlak
LordVlkodlak
06:47 Jan 18 2009

What's sad ... more often than not - it is not the "kids" that have become lazy and unable to write.





Vampirewitch39
Vampirewitch39
16:08 Jan 19 2009

*sighs* Some profiles just hurt my head as I try to read them. I have learned the "scan" trick- looking for phone numbers, other account names, cuss words, hate rants.



I feel for you as you HAVE to read all of them..word by word.



*pats on the back*



But you do a good job at it. :)





 

17:22 Jan 14 2009
Times Read: 857


I will make today productive. I must.



There are piles of paper surrounding our desks that need to be sorted. Junk mail and old useless papers need to find their way into a trash bag and out the door.



The sink is filled with pots and pans from playing chef yesterday, and all the water bottles need to be refilled and reused. Harry Pottit could stand some water too.



The gym sounds delightful, but it's just hard to get there. Yesterday I left the house without my iPod- that was my excuse for just running errands and not even making it inside the gym. A girls got to have her music if she's expecting to do 5 miles because watching CNBC doesn't give the same lift it did in the Clinton years.



This morning I managed to get QuickBooks Pro Installed. Today and tomorrow will be spent plugging in numbers from Dec 2007, going through statements, and finding any potential errors. Did I mention I've never used QuickBooks? Ah it cannot be that difficult. Assuming the hardbooks are accurate.



Also going to lend my services to get everyone else in this household caught up. I need to double check with the pup's grooming appointment is and check if the critters need to do an annual vet trip. The cat will really hate that.



So much to do.... I best be on my way.



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00:21 Jan 14 2009
Times Read: 875


I've got my UK gear on, pup in her UK attire, wing ordered, and a few cold hard teas. Bring it on Tennessee.



University of Kentucky Flag Pictures, Images and Photos

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Everdene
Everdene
00:24 Jan 14 2009

That's not our flag ;-)





Vampirewitch39
Vampirewitch39
00:32 Jan 14 2009

:) Does me good to see and read this. *pets the pup*



GO UK!!



Boo on orange!





sahahria
sahahria
08:35 Jan 14 2009

:D





 

23:36 Jan 09 2009
Times Read: 898


Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwr



I wish I could hibernate through this blasted cold weather.


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PandorasBx
PandorasBx
23:56 Jan 09 2009

You and me both ....





sahahria
sahahria
14:22 Jan 10 2009

Nah, run away with me to Florida, we'll do the geek fun Disney world escape! :D





SeleneTremere
SeleneTremere
17:15 Jan 13 2009

This is the only time I feel so energized! Hell, if I keep the heater on in the car for too long, I get sleepy..lol





xxEmaeraldxx
xxEmaeraldxx
20:14 Jan 13 2009

Darn and me too! Imagine having a good ole furry muff for your hands! giggles. Well, they did have them in the Victorian age :p








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